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Map of ancient DE samples
#61
(05-16-2024, 10:17 AM)Riverman Wrote: New (?) samples from Late Antiquity Dalmatia:
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/...94056v1?ct

I35009 G1 HR_G1_s male 9m-1y infant Not related cribra orbitalia -16,2 12,7 No genetic data E1b1b1a1b1
I34296 G14 HR_G14_a male 30-40 middle adult Not related trauma -18,7 7,7 HV11 E1b1b1a1b1


I33886 G12-A7 / male adult adult Family-A (2nd with I34981,I33888; 2/3rd with I34301) AMTL, caries, alveolar abscess, alveolar resorption, dental wear, dental enamel hypoplasia / / HV E1b1a1a1a1c1b2a2

E1b1a1a1a1c1b2a2 is probably E-Z6025 which is an (rather West-) African lineage.

I dont think its E1b1a , very likely E1b1b
Target: CapsianWGS_scaled
Distance: 1.2510% / 0.01251049
37.2 Iberomaurusian
36.8 Early_European_Farmer
12.8 Early_Levantine_Farmer
8.0 Steppe_Pastoralist
4.8 SSA
0.4 Iran_Neolithic
FTDNA : 91% North Africa +<2% Bedouin + <2  Southern-Levantinfo + <1 Sephardic Jewish + 3% Malta +  3%  Iberian Peninsula
23andME :  100% North Africa

WGS ( Y-DNA and mtDNA)
Y-DNA: E-A30032< A30480 ~1610 CE
mtDNA: V25b 800CE ? ( age mtDNA not accurate )
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#62
(05-16-2024, 10:17 AM)Riverman Wrote: New (?) samples from Late Antiquity Dalmatia:
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/...94056v1?ct

I35009 G1 HR_G1_s male 9m-1y infant Not related cribra orbitalia -16,2 12,7 No genetic data E1b1b1a1b1
I34296 G14 HR_G14_a male 30-40 middle adult Not related trauma -18,7 7,7 HV11 E1b1b1a1b1


I33886 G12-A7 / male adult adult Family-A (2nd with I34981,I33888; 2/3rd with I34301) AMTL, caries, alveolar abscess, alveolar resorption, dental wear, dental enamel hypoplasia / / HV E1b1a1a1a1c1b2a2

E1b1a1a1a1c1b2a2 is probably E-Z6025 which is an (rather West-) African lineage.

G12-A7 seems Bulgaria_IA in autosomal so he is likely just E-V13, in fact all of them seem Bulgaria_IA except for the infant who looks primarily Croatian_IA then Bulgarian_IA, likely his mother was Illyrian and his father Thracian.

To correct myself, G14 looks like Croatian_IA + Aegean_IA mixed, which makes G12-A7 unmixed Thracian ironically. Though these models are not robust, just give a general picture, Hvar used to be an Ancient Greek settlement, i wonder how many of them were from prior populations and how many after during Roman times.
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#63
(05-16-2024, 12:12 PM)Southpaw Wrote:
(05-16-2024, 10:17 AM)Riverman Wrote: New (?) samples from Late Antiquity Dalmatia:
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/...94056v1?ct

I35009 G1 HR_G1_s male 9m-1y infant Not related cribra orbitalia -16,2 12,7 No genetic data E1b1b1a1b1
I34296 G14 HR_G14_a male 30-40 middle adult Not related trauma -18,7 7,7 HV11 E1b1b1a1b1


I33886 G12-A7 / male adult adult Family-A (2nd with I34981,I33888; 2/3rd with I34301) AMTL, caries, alveolar abscess, alveolar resorption, dental wear, dental enamel hypoplasia / / HV E1b1a1a1a1c1b2a2

E1b1a1a1a1c1b2a2 is probably E-Z6025 which is an (rather West-) African lineage.

G12-A7 seems Bulgaria_IA in autosomal so he is likely just E-V13, in fact all of them seem Bulgaria_IA except for the infant who looks primarily Croatian_IA then Bulgarian_IA, likely his mother was Illyrian and his father Thracian.

To correct myself, G14 looks like Croatian_IA + Aegean_IA mixed, which makes G12-A7 unmixed Thracian ironically. Though these models are not robust, just give a general picture, Hvar used to be an Ancient Greek settlement, i wonder how many of them were from prior populations and how many after during Roman times.

I think they are mostly from a Greco-Roman context, therefore from the Aegean-East Mediterranean.
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Quote:UKR007 Kartal Odesa UkrEIA_ThracianHallstatt 996–831 cal BCE XY T1a1 E1b-V13 0.313
UKR089 Bilsk hillfort Poltava UkrEIA_Scythian_LeftDnipro_LocEl 500–300 BCE XY H+152 E1b-V13 0.449
UKR090 Bilsk hillfort Poltava UkrEIA_Scythian_LeftDnipro_LocEl 400–300 BCE XY H11a1 E1b-V13 0.450
UKR091 Bilsk hillfort Poltava UkrEIA_Scythian_LeftDnipro_LocEl 500–400 BCE XY H+152 E1b-V13 0.327
UKR152 necropolis Mykolaiv UkrEIA_Antiquity_Greeks?_1 392–206 cal BCE XY HV1b E1b-V13 0.818
UKR102 Zolochiv Kharkiv UkrIA_Chernyakhiv_2 300–400 CE XY H26 E1b-V13 0.755
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/...4.595769v1
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Target: CapsianWGS_scaled
Distance: 1.2510% / 0.01251049
37.2 Iberomaurusian
36.8 Early_European_Farmer
12.8 Early_Levantine_Farmer
8.0 Steppe_Pastoralist
4.8 SSA
0.4 Iran_Neolithic
FTDNA : 91% North Africa +<2% Bedouin + <2  Southern-Levantinfo + <1 Sephardic Jewish + 3% Malta +  3%  Iberian Peninsula
23andME :  100% North Africa

WGS ( Y-DNA and mtDNA)
Y-DNA: E-A30032< A30480 ~1610 CE
mtDNA: V25b 800CE ? ( age mtDNA not accurate )
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#65
New samples from the South Caucasus:

I1317 M Early Middle Ages E1b1b1a1a1(xE1b1b1a1a1b) H15b
SMT017 M Early Middle Ages E1b1b1a1b1a14~ J1b1b1
I1318 M Early Middle Ages E1b1b1b2(xE1b1b1b2b) J1b
I1320 M Early Middle Ages E1b1b1b2(xE1b1b1b2b) T2a
I1323 M Early Middle Ages E1b1b1b2(xE1b1b1b2b) U3a

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/...y-material

The EMA E-V13 is in the same subclade as
I5724 382-206 calBCE (2235±20 BP, PSUAMS-3094) HRV_IA Sv. Križ Brdovečki Croatia E-Y16721 E1b1b1a1b1a14~
https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-Y16721/
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#66
E-V13 from La Tene Switzerland:

E1b1b1a1b1a10a1a1b~ = downstream of E-S2979
https://discover.familytreedna.com/y-dna/E-BY5400/tree

The sample had a bit of contamination and was therefore not in the statistic, but he seems to be legitimate nevertheless:
After merging the shotgun and capture sequencing data, the average genome coverage in our samples ranged from 0.1193 to 0.9218 X, while 939,972 to 1,346,808 of targeted SNPs were covered, with a mean coverage spanning from 1.84 X to 10.46 X (Supplementary Table S9). Additionally, most samples (> 81%) show low contamination estimates from modern human DNA (≤ 5% on mtDNA for all samples and ≤ 3% on Y-Chromosome in males), except for two (COR-3 and COR-19; 6% and 24% of contamination on mtDNA level, respectively). After filtering the reads by PMDtools40, the two contaminated samples still retained enough human reads for sex determination (810,776 and 1,004,715, respectively)41,42 but not for further analyses (kinship, PCA, and clustering analysis).
E-V13 being confirmed for him double time, the minor contamination shouldn't affect the result.
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#67
(06-17-2024, 04:07 PM)Riverman Wrote: E-V13 from La Tene Switzerland:

E1b1b1a1b1a10a1a1b~ = downstream of E-S2979
https://discover.familytreedna.com/y-dna/E-BY5400/tree

The sample had a bit of contamination and was therefore not in the statistic, but he seems to be legitimate nevertheless:
After merging the shotgun and capture sequencing data, the average genome coverage in our samples ranged from 0.1193 to 0.9218 X, while 939,972 to 1,346,808 of targeted SNPs were covered, with a mean coverage spanning from 1.84 X to 10.46 X (Supplementary Table S9). Additionally, most samples (> 81%) show low contamination estimates from modern human DNA (≤ 5% on mtDNA for all samples and ≤ 3% on Y-Chromosome in males), except for two (COR-3 and COR-19; 6% and 24% of contamination on mtDNA level, respectively). After filtering the reads by PMDtools40, the two contaminated samples still retained enough human reads for sex determination (810,776 and 1,004,715, respectively)41,42 but not for further analyses (kinship, PCA, and clustering analysis).
E-V13 being confirmed for him double time, the minor contamination shouldn't affect the result.

Could you please link the source to the paper reporting this new sample?
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(06-20-2024, 04:48 PM)Passa Wrote:
(06-17-2024, 04:07 PM)Riverman Wrote: E-V13 from La Tene Switzerland:

E1b1b1a1b1a10a1a1b~ = downstream of E-S2979
https://discover.familytreedna.com/y-dna/E-BY5400/tree

The sample had a bit of contamination and was therefore not in the statistic, but he seems to be legitimate nevertheless:
After merging the shotgun and capture sequencing data, the average genome coverage in our samples ranged from 0.1193 to 0.9218 X, while 939,972 to 1,346,808 of targeted SNPs were covered, with a mean coverage spanning from 1.84 X to 10.46 X (Supplementary Table S9). Additionally, most samples (> 81%) show low contamination estimates from modern human DNA (≤ 5% on mtDNA for all samples and ≤ 3% on Y-Chromosome in males), except for two (COR-3 and COR-19; 6% and 24% of contamination on mtDNA level, respectively). After filtering the reads by PMDtools40, the two contaminated samples still retained enough human reads for sex determination (810,776 and 1,004,715, respectively)41,42 but not for further analyses (kinship, PCA, and clustering analysis).
E-V13 being confirmed for him double time, the minor contamination shouldn't affect the result.

Could you please link the source to the paper reporting this new sample?

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-62524-y
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Target: CapsianWGS_scaled
Distance: 1.2510% / 0.01251049
37.2 Iberomaurusian
36.8 Early_European_Farmer
12.8 Early_Levantine_Farmer
8.0 Steppe_Pastoralist
4.8 SSA
0.4 Iran_Neolithic
FTDNA : 91% North Africa +<2% Bedouin + <2  Southern-Levantinfo + <1 Sephardic Jewish + 3% Malta +  3%  Iberian Peninsula
23andME :  100% North Africa

WGS ( Y-DNA and mtDNA)
Y-DNA: E-A30032< A30480 ~1610 CE
mtDNA: V25b 800CE ? ( age mtDNA not accurate )
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#69
1 new and more context for two already used E samples from Medieval Belgium:
https://genarchivist.com/showthread.php?tid=931

Quote:KOS005 Koksijde S05 Tooth root 26-50 XY 0.031 no 0.010 0.103 9.3 0.002 K1a4a1 E2a-Z1919 na 1st KOS011, brother-brother
KOS011 Koksijde S15 Tooth root 26-50 XY 0.231 yes 0.089 yes 0.054 0.226 0.077 18.0 0.004 0.002 K1a4a1 E2a1-V13 0.253 1st KOS005, brother-brother
OLV058 Sint-Truiden 2363 Tooth root XY 1.920 yes 0.018 yes 0.009 0.729 0.150 47.9 0.001 0.010 H1be E

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.24...-materials
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