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Map of ancient DE samples
#61
New (?) samples from Late Antiquity Dalmatia:
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/...94056v1?ct

I35009 G1 HR_G1_s male 9m-1y infant Not related cribra orbitalia -16,2 12,7 No genetic data E1b1b1a1b1
I34296 G14 HR_G14_a male 30-40 middle adult Not related trauma -18,7 7,7 HV11 E1b1b1a1b1


I33886 G12-A7 / male adult adult Family-A (2nd with I34981,I33888; 2/3rd with I34301) AMTL, caries, alveolar abscess, alveolar resorption, dental wear, dental enamel hypoplasia / / HV E1b1a1a1a1c1b2a2

E1b1a1a1a1c1b2a2 is probably E-Z6025 which is an (rather West-) African lineage.
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#62
(05-16-2024, 10:17 AM)Riverman Wrote: New (?) samples from Late Antiquity Dalmatia:
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/...94056v1?ct

I35009 G1 HR_G1_s male 9m-1y infant Not related cribra orbitalia -16,2 12,7 No genetic data E1b1b1a1b1
I34296 G14 HR_G14_a male 30-40 middle adult Not related trauma -18,7 7,7 HV11 E1b1b1a1b1


I33886 G12-A7 / male adult adult Family-A (2nd with I34981,I33888; 2/3rd with I34301) AMTL, caries, alveolar abscess, alveolar resorption, dental wear, dental enamel hypoplasia / / HV E1b1a1a1a1c1b2a2

E1b1a1a1a1c1b2a2 is probably E-Z6025 which is an (rather West-) African lineage.

I dont think its E1b1a , very likely E1b1b
Target: CapsianWGS_scaled
Distance: 1.2510% / 0.01251049
37.2 Iberomaurusian
36.8 Early_European_Farmer
12.8 Early_Levantine_Farmer
8.0 Steppe_Pastoralist
4.8 SSA
0.4 Iran_Neolithic
FTDNA : 91% North Africa +<2% Bedouin + <2  Southern-Levantinfo + <1 Sephardic Jewish + 3% Malta +  3%  Iberian Peninsula
23andME :  100% North Africa

WGS ( Y-DNA and mtDNA)
Y-DNA: E-A30032< A30480 ~1610 CE
mtDNA: V25b 800CE ? ( age mtDNA not accurate )
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#63
(05-16-2024, 10:17 AM)Riverman Wrote: New (?) samples from Late Antiquity Dalmatia:
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/...94056v1?ct

I35009 G1 HR_G1_s male 9m-1y infant Not related cribra orbitalia -16,2 12,7 No genetic data E1b1b1a1b1
I34296 G14 HR_G14_a male 30-40 middle adult Not related trauma -18,7 7,7 HV11 E1b1b1a1b1


I33886 G12-A7 / male adult adult Family-A (2nd with I34981,I33888; 2/3rd with I34301) AMTL, caries, alveolar abscess, alveolar resorption, dental wear, dental enamel hypoplasia / / HV E1b1a1a1a1c1b2a2

E1b1a1a1a1c1b2a2 is probably E-Z6025 which is an (rather West-) African lineage.

G12-A7 seems Bulgaria_IA in autosomal so he is likely just E-V13, in fact all of them seem Bulgaria_IA except for the infant who looks primarily Croatian_IA then Bulgarian_IA, likely his mother was Illyrian and his father Thracian.

To correct myself, G14 looks like Croatian_IA + Aegean_IA mixed, which makes G12-A7 unmixed Thracian ironically. Though these models are not robust, just give a general picture, Hvar used to be an Ancient Greek settlement, i wonder how many of them were from prior populations and how many after during Roman times.
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(05-16-2024, 12:12 PM)Southpaw Wrote:
(05-16-2024, 10:17 AM)Riverman Wrote: New (?) samples from Late Antiquity Dalmatia:
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/...94056v1?ct

I35009 G1 HR_G1_s male 9m-1y infant Not related cribra orbitalia -16,2 12,7 No genetic data E1b1b1a1b1
I34296 G14 HR_G14_a male 30-40 middle adult Not related trauma -18,7 7,7 HV11 E1b1b1a1b1


I33886 G12-A7 / male adult adult Family-A (2nd with I34981,I33888; 2/3rd with I34301) AMTL, caries, alveolar abscess, alveolar resorption, dental wear, dental enamel hypoplasia / / HV E1b1a1a1a1c1b2a2

E1b1a1a1a1c1b2a2 is probably E-Z6025 which is an (rather West-) African lineage.

G12-A7 seems Bulgaria_IA in autosomal so he is likely just E-V13, in fact all of them seem Bulgaria_IA except for the infant who looks primarily Croatian_IA then Bulgarian_IA, likely his mother was Illyrian and his father Thracian.

To correct myself, G14 looks like Croatian_IA + Aegean_IA mixed, which makes G12-A7 unmixed Thracian ironically. Though these models are not robust, just give a general picture, Hvar used to be an Ancient Greek settlement, i wonder how many of them were from prior populations and how many after during Roman times.

I think they are mostly from a Greco-Roman context, therefore from the Aegean-East Mediterranean.
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#65
Quote:UKR007 Kartal Odesa UkrEIA_ThracianHallstatt 996–831 cal BCE XY T1a1 E1b-V13 0.313
UKR089 Bilsk hillfort Poltava UkrEIA_Scythian_LeftDnipro_LocEl 500–300 BCE XY H+152 E1b-V13 0.449
UKR090 Bilsk hillfort Poltava UkrEIA_Scythian_LeftDnipro_LocEl 400–300 BCE XY H11a1 E1b-V13 0.450
UKR091 Bilsk hillfort Poltava UkrEIA_Scythian_LeftDnipro_LocEl 500–400 BCE XY H+152 E1b-V13 0.327
UKR152 necropolis Mykolaiv UkrEIA_Antiquity_Greeks?_1 392–206 cal BCE XY HV1b E1b-V13 0.818
UKR102 Zolochiv Kharkiv UkrIA_Chernyakhiv_2 300–400 CE XY H26 E1b-V13 0.755
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/...4.595769v1
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Target: CapsianWGS_scaled
Distance: 1.2510% / 0.01251049
37.2 Iberomaurusian
36.8 Early_European_Farmer
12.8 Early_Levantine_Farmer
8.0 Steppe_Pastoralist
4.8 SSA
0.4 Iran_Neolithic
FTDNA : 91% North Africa +<2% Bedouin + <2  Southern-Levantinfo + <1 Sephardic Jewish + 3% Malta +  3%  Iberian Peninsula
23andME :  100% North Africa

WGS ( Y-DNA and mtDNA)
Y-DNA: E-A30032< A30480 ~1610 CE
mtDNA: V25b 800CE ? ( age mtDNA not accurate )
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#66
New samples from the South Caucasus:

I1317 M Early Middle Ages E1b1b1a1a1(xE1b1b1a1a1b) H15b
SMT017 M Early Middle Ages E1b1b1a1b1a14~ J1b1b1
I1318 M Early Middle Ages E1b1b1b2(xE1b1b1b2b) J1b
I1320 M Early Middle Ages E1b1b1b2(xE1b1b1b2b) T2a
I1323 M Early Middle Ages E1b1b1b2(xE1b1b1b2b) U3a

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/...y-material

The EMA E-V13 is in the same subclade as
I5724 382-206 calBCE (2235±20 BP, PSUAMS-3094) HRV_IA Sv. Križ Brdovečki Croatia E-Y16721 E1b1b1a1b1a14~
https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-Y16721/
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