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U5a2c3a
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I belong to mtDNA haplogroup U5a2c3a. I've had FTDNA's Full Genome Sequence and BritainsDNA's Chromo2, and that's what both of them said.

MtDNA testing hasn't been that productive for me on the genealogical front. My most distant mtDNA ancestor is my maternal great grandmother, born in 1878, and that's not all that far back. Here she is with her kids and a teenaged niece from her husband's side. That's my maternal grandmother on her lap.

[Image: Lancaster-Nora-with-kids-and-niece-Katie-Morris.jpg]
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(11-03-2023, 03:53 AM)rmstevens2 Wrote: I belong to mtDNA haplogroup U5a2c3a. I've had FTDNA's Full Genome Sequence and BritainsDNA's Chromo2, and that's what both of them said.

MtDNA testing hasn't been that productive for me on the genealogical front. My most distant mtDNA ancestor is my maternal great grandmother, born in 1878, and that's not all that far back. Here she is with her kids and a teenaged niece from her husband's side. That's my maternal grandmother on her lap.

[Image: Lancaster-Nora-with-kids-and-niece-Katie-Morris.jpg]

Great i see there sample from Algeria maybe berber Aures OQ884814.1
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Target: CapsianWGS_scaled
Distance: 1.2510% / 0.01251049
37.2 Iberomaurusian
36.8 Early_European_Farmer
12.8 Early_Levantine_Farmer
8.0 Steppe_Pastoralist
4.8 SSA
0.4 Iran_Neolithic

FTDNA : 91% North Africa +<2% Bedouin + <2  Southern-Levantinfo + <1 Sephardic Jewish + 3% Malta +  3%  Iberian Peninsula
23andME :  100% North Africa
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Here are some ancient U5a2c3a samples:

U5a2c3a Sample I1382 Moselle, France 2435-2136 BC Olalde et al 2018 Bell Beaker

U5a2c3a Sample I2597 Amesbury, Wiltshire, England 2280-2030 BC Olalde et al 2018 EBA

U5a2c3a Sample I2455 Cambridgeshire, England 2130-1910 BC Olalde 2018 Bell Beaker
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There's a Mesolithic U5a2c3 sample from Blätterhöhle, Germany, dated to ~8652 BC. She's sample BLA20 from Bollongino et al, 2013.

That's the oldest U5a2c3 I know of (one step upstream from U5a2c3a).
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Ancient U5a2c3a samples are cool, but they don't matter to me all that much. As I mentioned before, I can't get past a maternal great grandmother on my mtDNA line. 

I remember talking not too long ago with my mother about this. She mentioned how people out in the countryside back in those old days were buried in pine boxes without much fanfare or record keeping. That explains the story of my mtDNA maternal great grandmother and her husband, who were apparently dead by 1920. They came from Tennessee/northern Alabama to Arkansas and were farmers who lived out in the deep sticks. 

I just don't know what happened to them.
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(11-04-2023, 01:19 AM)rmstevens2 Wrote: Here are some ancient U5a2c3a samples:

U5a2c3a Sample I1382 Moselle, France 2435-2136 BC Olalde et al 2018 Bell Beaker

U5a2c3a Sample I2597 Amesbury, Wiltshire, England 2280-2030 BC Olalde et al 2018 EBA

U5a2c3a Sample I2455 Cambridgeshire, England 2130-1910 BC Olalde 2018 Bell Beaker

Of those three samples, even number two was probably a Beaker individual, but that sample is reported only as EBA (Early Bronze Age) because there were no Beaker artifacts included in the burial.

However, lest I become too excited by the Beaker thing, I recall that my mtDNA line dates back to native European hunter-gatherers, which is cool enough, I reckon.
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(01-20-2024, 10:03 PM)rmstevens2 Wrote:
(11-04-2023, 01:19 AM)rmstevens2 Wrote: Here are some ancient U5a2c3a samples:

U5a2c3a Sample I1382 Moselle, France 2435-2136 BC Olalde et al 2018 Bell Beaker

U5a2c3a Sample I2597 Amesbury, Wiltshire, England 2280-2030 BC Olalde et al 2018 EBA

U5a2c3a Sample I2455 Cambridgeshire, England 2130-1910 BC Olalde 2018 Bell Beaker

Of those three samples, even number two was probably a Beaker individual, but that sample is reported only as EBA (Early Bronze Age) because there were no Beaker artifacts included in the burial.

However, lest I become too excited by the Beaker thing, I recall that my mtDNA line dates back to native European hunter-gatherers, which is cool enough, I reckon.

your male line is also from european hunter. R1b was among WHG and EHG thousand and thousand of years before steppe ancestry and BBC existed.
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(01-20-2024, 11:02 PM)old europe Wrote:
(01-20-2024, 10:03 PM)rmstevens2 Wrote:
(11-04-2023, 01:19 AM)rmstevens2 Wrote: Here are some ancient U5a2c3a samples:

U5a2c3a Sample I1382 Moselle, France 2435-2136 BC Olalde et al 2018 Bell Beaker

U5a2c3a Sample I2597 Amesbury, Wiltshire, England 2280-2030 BC Olalde et al 2018 EBA

U5a2c3a Sample I2455 Cambridgeshire, England 2130-1910 BC Olalde 2018 Bell Beaker

Of those three samples, even number two was probably a Beaker individual, but that sample is reported only as EBA (Early Bronze Age) because there were no Beaker artifacts included in the burial.

However, lest I become too excited by the Beaker thing, I recall that my mtDNA line dates back to native European hunter-gatherers, which is cool enough, I reckon.

your male line is also from european hunter. R1b was among WHG and EHG thousand and thousand of years before steppe ancestry and BBC existed.

All our Y-DNA lines were HG at some point. See this thread.

I'm definitely interested in that phase of things. In fact, I wish they hadn't killed all the Woolly Mammoths. I would like to be able to ride one.
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(01-20-2024, 11:07 PM)rmstevens2 Wrote:
(01-20-2024, 11:02 PM)old europe Wrote:
(01-20-2024, 10:03 PM)rmstevens2 Wrote:
(11-04-2023, 01:19 AM)rmstevens2 Wrote: Here are some ancient U5a2c3a samples:

U5a2c3a Sample I1382 Moselle, France 2435-2136 BC Olalde et al 2018 Bell Beaker

U5a2c3a Sample I2597 Amesbury, Wiltshire, England 2280-2030 BC Olalde et al 2018 EBA

U5a2c3a Sample I2455 Cambridgeshire, England 2130-1910 BC Olalde 2018 Bell Beaker

Of those three samples, even number two was probably a Beaker individual, but that sample is reported only as EBA (Early Bronze Age) because there were no Beaker artifacts included in the burial.

However, lest I become too excited by the Beaker thing, I recall that my mtDNA line dates back to native European hunter-gatherers, which is cool enough, I reckon.

your male line is also from european hunter. R1b was among WHG and EHG thousand and thousand of years before steppe ancestry and BBC existed.

All our Y-DNA lines were HG at some point. See this thread.

I'm definitely interested in that phase of things. In fact, I wish they hadn't killed all the Woolly Mammoths. I would like to be able to ride one.

Hello @rmstevens2, isn't there any map ancient about mtDNA Haplogroup U5?
Target: CapsianWGS_scaled
Distance: 1.2510% / 0.01251049
37.2 Iberomaurusian
36.8 Early_European_Farmer
12.8 Early_Levantine_Farmer
8.0 Steppe_Pastoralist
4.8 SSA
0.4 Iran_Neolithic

FTDNA : 91% North Africa +<2% Bedouin + <2  Southern-Levantinfo + <1 Sephardic Jewish + 3% Malta +  3%  Iberian Peninsula
23andME :  100% North Africa
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I don't know of any map of ancient U5 results, just generic U5 modern distribution maps.
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My father's maternal line disappears from record in post-Revolutionary Appalachian Tennessee; due to the testing of a cousin I am fairly certain it is T2b3, which is broadly Western European. My own line I can trace back to the old country, which in this case is Ireland; my maternal grandmother's maternal grandmother was born in western County Waterford and her mother was from Tipperary.
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(01-22-2024, 03:02 PM)Vinitharya Wrote: My father's maternal line disappears from record in post-Revolutionary Appalachian Tennessee; due to the testing of a cousin I am fairly certain it is T2b3, which is broadly Western European.  My own line I can trace back to the old country, which in this case is Ireland; my maternal grandmother's maternal grandmother was born in western County Waterford and her mother was from Tipperary.

This mtDNA Haplogroup (T) its linked a Neolithic Farmers Anatolian
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Target: CapsianWGS_scaled
Distance: 1.2510% / 0.01251049
37.2 Iberomaurusian
36.8 Early_European_Farmer
12.8 Early_Levantine_Farmer
8.0 Steppe_Pastoralist
4.8 SSA
0.4 Iran_Neolithic

FTDNA : 91% North Africa +<2% Bedouin + <2  Southern-Levantinfo + <1 Sephardic Jewish + 3% Malta +  3%  Iberian Peninsula
23andME :  100% North Africa
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