Coats of arms of haplogroups J (J-M304), J1 (J-M267), J2 (J-M172) and others

[Vognejar]

This topic is a continuation of the topic Coats of arms of haplogroup J2b (J-M12/J-M102)

Based on the results of work on the previous coat of arms, I decided to revise the concept from haplogroup J2b to something more global (haplogroups J, J1, J2).

Share some results with a short description:

1. Coats of arms made using chat gpt, Armoria. Here were collected statistical data on the number of population by countries, by the colors of their flags. The idea was taken as a basis that the haplogroup begins its spread from the region of Western Asia and spreads across the Mediterranean. Then from the received data it was translated into a graphical form, through the program:



2. The coat of arms for the haplogroup J (J-M304) itself was generated by leonardo ai. The crescent moon as a symbol of the region of Western Asia (fertile cercent) (J1 (J-M267))  and the olive branch as a symbol of the Mediterranean J2 (J-M172):







The symbols are related to geography, without reference to politics and religions.

Please let me know your comments or suggestions

Upon completion of work on the three coats of arms, I will move on to developing individual coats of arms for individual branches of the haplogroup upon request.

Please let me know your comments or suggestions

[ChrisR]

This topic is a continuation of the topic Coats of arms of haplogroup J2b (J-M12/J-M102)

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Please let me know your comments or suggestions

Upon completion of work on the three coats of arms, I will move on to developing individual coats of arms for individual branches of the haplogroup upon request.
Please let me know your comments or suggestions

I did not engage in the anthrogenica thread. I want to state my reasoning, not to discourage your creative work.
For a coat of arms for a large group IMHO you would need to involve and synthesize the CoA most wanted descriptive features from a larger group of "active people" in this haplogroup in a participative form - I do not consider this forum having enough of "J/J2 people" as active members.
At least if you want them to re-use the CoA on their sites etc.
For single lineages IMO if a Haplogroup younger then Chalcolithic (Copper Age / Eneolithic) is discovered a general older Haplogroup CoA is not anymore that interesting.
For a specific project this reasoning is not necessary. I myself have created at lot of logos, signets and even CoA (only modern interpretations based on historical ones so far) for haplogroups/projects and surname-projects.

See for example
 

[RCO]

J1 was born around the Eastern Caucasus and the Caspian Sea where we can find the biggest basal diversity and some of the biggest frequencies.
There are branches like J1-FGC6064<FGC6035 completely related to Proto-Indo-Europeans and Ancient Iranians with a long tradition of movements and frontiers of wars with our own proper native and ethnic Indo-European languages. In my lineage we arrived in the Westernmost part of Eurasia in Portugal and we took part in the Portuguese Reconquista where the "crescent moon" and all semitic (Moor, Berber, Arab, Jew) were defeated because the Portuguese Empire was the first global Empire around the world and the first language where the sun never sets in Europe, the Atlantic Islands like the Azores, Big Brazil (proud member of the BRICS as one of the biggest modern States in the world), Africa, Asia (Timor).

[Vognejar]

This topic is a continuation of the topic Coats of arms of haplogroup J2b (J-M12/J-M102)

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Please let me know your comments or suggestions

Upon completion of work on the three coats of arms, I will move on to developing individual coats of arms for individual branches of the haplogroup upon request.
Please let me know your comments or suggestions

I did not engage in the anthrogenica thread. I want to state my reasoning, not to discourage your creative work.
For a coat of arms for a large group IMHO you would need to involve and synthesize the CoA most wanted descriptive features from a larger group of "active people" in this haplogroup in a participative form - I do not consider this forum having enough of "J/J2 people" as active members.
At least if you want them to re-use the CoA on their sites etc.
For single lineages IMO if a Haplogroup younger then Chalcolithic (Copper Age / Eneolithic) is discovered a general older Haplogroup CoA is not anymore that interesting.
For a specific project this reasoning is not necessary. I myself have created at lot of logos, signets and even CoA (only modern interpretations based on historical ones so far) for haplogroups/projects and surname-projects.

See for example
 

I agree with you completely. Making the topic relevant and popularizing it are other directions that need to be done.

It seems to me that the idea of DNA geneology unites many people, different nationalities and religions on the one hand, and in the future will lead to the unification of people into some kind of clans, family homes (for those who are interested) on the other hand. Therefore, there is a lot of room for work.

[Vognejar]

J1 was born around the Eastern Caucasus and the Caspian Sea where we can find the biggest basal diversity and some of the biggest frequencies.
There are branches like J1-FGC6064<FGC6035 completely related to Proto-Indo-Europeans and Ancient Iranians with a long tradition of movements and frontiers of wars with our own proper native and ethnic Indo-European languages. In my lineage we arrived in the Westernmost part of Eurasia in Portugal and we took part in the Portuguese Reconquista where the "crescent moon" and all semitic (Moor, Berber, Arab, Jew) were defeated because the Portuguese Empire was the first global Empire around the world and the first language where the sun never sets in Europe, the Atlantic Islands like the Azores, Big Brazil (proud member of the BRICS as one of the biggest modern States in the world), Africa, Asia (Timor).

Got your idea. The crescent symbol is quite politicized and it is worth finding some other, alternative symbol for the region of Western Asia.

My idea was to create some basic symbols of the haplogroup and use them, including in coats of arms for specific branches of haplogroups. For example, each branch will have its own personal totem animal at the level of 4000 years BC and at the same time, hold a shield or somehow interact with the symbols of a higher-order haplogroup.

[Vognejar]

2. The coat of arms for the haplogroup J (J-M304) itself was generated by leonardo ai. The crescent moon as a symbol of the region of Western Asia (fertile cercent) (J1 (J-M267))  and the olive branch as a symbol of the Mediterranean J2 (J-M172):



Please let me know your comments or suggestions

Taking into account the comments, I decided to consider the option when the letter shape should be in the form of an object. Here is the reworked version.

Sika's sword in the shape of the English letter J, with an olive branch underneath it:

[RCO]

Very nice, the olive tree is a wonderful tree very resistant, long-lived and useful for all cultures where J is present and the olive branch is a symbol of victory and peace.
In Portuguese Oliveira is also a very ancient surname of several different families and we use óleo and azeite in both forms from different linguistic traditions.

[Albruic]

Great thread, love this. Why don't we make a Haplogroup Coat of Arms event? Whos in?

[Mitchell-Atkins]

One Idea that came to mind on the “J” shape is to use it as the right side of the shield that extends to the lower left side as a border…I’ll post something later when I have access to my desktop.

Using the Iberian style heater (rounded bottom) would facilitate this type of design.
It could either be inside or outside the shield

[Mitchell-Atkins]

One Idea that came to mind on the “J” shape is to use it as the right side of the shield that extends to the lower left side as a border…I’ll post something later when I have access to my desktop.

Using the Iberian style heater (rounded bottom) would facilitate this type of design.
It could either be inside or outside the shield

something like this



With pertinent additions in the middle

[Mitchell-Atkins]

Here's a design that combines the first 2 empires to encompass much of Hg's J's early area.

The banners of Alexander the Great (left) and Cyrus the Great (Right)

[Mitchell-Atkins]

Or a unique design that combines elements of both of the above.

[Mitchell-Atkins]

Or one could take inspiration from symbols in the Book of Daniel

[Vognejar]

Thank you all for your feedback!
Unfortunately, there is no honorary figure in the form of the letter J in heraldry. But this idea can be realized with heraldic stripes with a motto in the form of the letter J. Loock likes this:




As for ethnic features, the Virgin sun and Iranian religious symbols should be abandoned. But, of course, we can use this in individual coats of arms, especially ornaments from archaeological finds of the corresponding cultures.

[Vognejar]

1. Example of the design of the coat of arms for haplogroup J2b (J-M12/J-M102):



That is, each branch of haplogroup J chooses for itself a totem animal that will hold a shield with the coat of arms of haplogroup J.

2. An example of the use of a haplogroup coat of arms as an award sign on a family coat of arms (the Lubomirski coat of arms is taken as an example):