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    Thread: An attempt at deep West Eurasian phylogeny
Post: RE: An attempt at deep West Eurasian phylogeny

That exact combo (if treating BK1653 as an exact or similar source) doesn't work. It overfits WHG to Kostenki/Sunghir/Muierii. The setup I've been using treats... BK1653 = proto-CWE + Goyet WHG = ...
Kale
Kale
Ancient (aDNA) 353 30,035 6 hours ago
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

Gabru77 Wrote: (Today, 04:40 AM) -- @Kale Maybe run Golubaya Krinitsa with Tutkaul + Sidelkino + Kotias_Klde + Vovnigi? -- It likes that, consolidates the AG3 & Iran_N as expected.
Kale
Kale
Ancient (aDNA) 314 23,078 8 hours ago
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

old europe Wrote: (Yesterday, 04:49 PM) -- what does samara-sidelkino mean? I think they are different clusters ( tough both are EHG of course) both in composition and in age. Sidelkino is thousand o...
Kale
Kale
Ancient (aDNA) 314 23,078 Today, 03:20 AM
    Thread: An attempt at deep West Eurasian phylogeny
Post: RE: An attempt at deep West Eurasian phylogeny

Tried the above graph with transversion snps only, nothing needed changing.
Kale
Kale
Ancient (aDNA) 353 30,035 Yesterday, 03:48 PM
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

Gabru77 Wrote: (Yesterday, 01:11 PM) -- @Kale Is there WSHG signal in Russia_Samara_HG/Meso? I know it has some CHG -- Same setup as earlier. Tried various combinations of Sidelkino, Vovnigi, Golu...
Kale
Kale
Ancient (aDNA) 314 23,078 Yesterday, 02:57 PM
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

It is unfortunate we have no samples from Western Kazakhstan prior to the bronze age to help elucidate the 'Tutkaul' component of CLV. I suspected it for a while but thought I was in a small crowd i...
Kale
Kale
Ancient (aDNA) 314 23,078 Yesterday, 04:53 AM
    Thread: Proto-Indo-European and Indo-Anatolian
Post: RE: Proto-Indo-European and Indo-Anatolian

Jaska Wrote: (05-19-2024, 06:36 PM) -- Kale Wrote: (05-19-2024, 05:44 PM) -- Does that include loanwords also (at or before the PIE stage)? -- Well, some loanwords are more convincing than others....
Kale
Kale
Linguistics 21 1,142 Yesterday, 04:23 AM
    Thread: Proto-Indo-European and Indo-Anatolian
Post: RE: Proto-Indo-European and Indo-Anatolian

Does that include loanwords also (at or before the PIE stage)?
Kale
Kale
Linguistics 21 1,142 05-19-2024, 05:44 PM
    Thread: Proto-Indo-European and Indo-Anatolian
Post: RE: Proto-Indo-European and Indo-Anatolian

So now that it seems like the mainstream is on board with a Steppe origin of PIE, what does linguistics have to say about PPIE? For example are there any hints of language contacts which could point...
Kale
Kale
Linguistics 21 1,142 05-19-2024, 04:52 PM
    Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024

What do ya'll make of the sample KTL001 (3502-3343BCE) in this context of origin of Yamnaya. It seems half Cernavoda half Yamnaya. Ukraine_Kartal_Cernavoda_KTL001 Ukraine_Kartal_Cernavoda_A 0.45...
Kale
Kale
R1b-L51 413 14,952 05-19-2024, 02:04 PM
    Thread: Uralic populations in the qpAdm models by Zeng et al. 2023
Post: RE: Uralic populations in the qpAdm models by Zeng...

Another try at Mansi. Added Kolyma_Meso and Saqqaq to columns, which did make things a bit more picky. RUS_Krasnoyarsk_Orak_MLBA 0.375908 0.0165742 22.6804 (Sintashta-clone) RUS_Omsk_Borovjank...
Kale
Kale
Ancient (aDNA) 32 2,092 05-17-2024, 02:12 AM
    Thread: Uralic populations in the qpAdm models by Zeng et al. 2023
Post: RE: Uralic populations in the qpAdm models by Zeng...

kolompar Wrote: (05-15-2024, 09:11 PM) -- I tried Mansi next, even the best non feasible p was only 0.046, best feasible model is Russia_Karelia_HG + Russia_Mezhovskaya.SG + Russia_CentralYakutia_LN....
Kale
Kale
Ancient (aDNA) 32 2,092 05-16-2024, 08:17 PM
    Thread: Qpgraph of Eurasian AMH dispersion
Post: RE: Qpgraph of Eurasian AMH dispersion

I suspect AR19K has some quality issues, it just seems far from a lot of populations. Chimp.REF Papuan.DG China_UP AR19K 0.00156 2.96 699976 Mbuti.DG Papuan.DG China_UP AR19K 0.00038 0.81 728883 Mbut...
Kale
Kale
Ancient (aDNA) 37 1,857 05-15-2024, 04:45 AM
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

It doesn't look like many Steppe women, no mt-U2/U4/U5 that I can see, although there was a mt-R1b1 in Sirnak_EBA. Many of the 'Southern' steppe lines may be a bit more ambiguous because did they co...
Kale
Kale
Ancient (aDNA) 314 23,078 05-14-2024, 08:19 PM
    Thread: E-V22 origins and spread
Post: RE: E-V22 origins and spread

ilabv Wrote: (05-10-2024, 10:24 AM) -- Proto-Semitic at 6000 BC is quite frankly silly. Not worth refuting -- Would Pre-Proto-Semitic make sense at 6000BC? E.g. it's split from other Afroasiatic la...
Kale
Kale
E 52 1,791 05-14-2024, 05:03 PM
    Thread: R1a-M417 in Yamnaya?
Post: RE: R1a-M417 in Yamnaya?

targaryen Wrote: (05-13-2024, 08:22 PM) -- My point is that I don't think all the EEF in CW is from Ukraine/steppes. Some of it is local Polish GACs. -- Of course. Some GAC were incorporated into CW...
Kale
Kale
R1a 14 398 05-14-2024, 03:33 AM
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

targaryen Wrote: (05-13-2024, 07:03 PM) -- Mate, like was mentioned before, we have IBD sharing between CLVs and Mesopotomian like samples. This means within generations CLVs mixed with Mesopotomians...
Kale
Kale
Ancient (aDNA) 314 23,078 05-13-2024, 07:27 PM
    Thread: R1a-M417 in Yamnaya?
Post: RE: R1a-M417 in Yamnaya?

I suppose CWC came from a more Ukraine-Eneolithic rich subset of Yamnaya? A similar analogue would be Don Yamnaya, they pick up only a little extra stuff from Ukraine yet the y lines shift dramatical...
Kale
Kale
R1a 14 398 05-13-2024, 05:35 PM
    Thread: R1a-M417 in Yamnaya?
Post: RE: R1a-M417 in Yamnaya?

Yamnaya and early/high-steppe CWC can both be modeled as mixes of Eneolithic Progress and Dereivka. CWC has more Dereivka than Yamnaya/Afansievo do, so I'll hazard a guess that might be the source of ...
Kale
Kale
R1a 14 398 05-13-2024, 05:12 PM
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

alanarchae Wrote: (05-13-2024, 04:07 PM) -- On the other hand the DNA evidence which indicates the CLV cline groups had mixed with specifically Mesopotamia linked farmers extremely hard to explain by...
Kale
Kale
Ancient (aDNA) 314 23,078 05-13-2024, 04:52 PM