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    Thread: Epigravettian?
Post: RE: Epigravettian?

there are some groups in the east Urals c.15000-13000BC that sound like they were gravettian related and likely came from the west. There is a very spectacular group of cave paintings of that kind of ...
alanarchae
alanarchae
R1b general 9 195 Yesterday, 05:40 PM
    Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024

R.Rocca Wrote: (Yesterday, 04:14 PM) -- A good read that mentions Repin ceramics in Yamnaya contexts. Early Yamnaya chronology and origins from an archaeological perspective by David Anthony h...
alanarchae
alanarchae
R1b-L51 431 16,131 Yesterday, 05:33 PM
    Thread: Epigravettian?
Post: RE: Epigravettian?

rmstevens2 Wrote: (05-25-2024, 07:42 PM) -- So, what culture was east of Epigravettian around 17,000 BC, which is when FTDNA places the R-M343 MRCA? Right now, FTDNA Discover's Globetrekker has it...
alanarchae
alanarchae
R1b general 9 195 05-25-2024, 10:58 PM
    Thread: Epigravettian?
Post: RE: Epigravettian?

formed about 20000BC with TMRCA 17000BC. The ancestral M173 formed about 26000BC (older than Ma’lta boy c. 24000BC -showing he was a parallel line not an ancestor). His M207 TMRCA is dated to 26000BC...
alanarchae
alanarchae
R1b general 9 195 05-25-2024, 11:45 AM
    Thread: The Origin of R1b-L21
Post: RE: The Origin of R1b-L21

rmstevens2 Wrote: (05-19-2024, 07:25 PM) -- I don't know if I have mentioned this before or not, but Low Hauxley 70, the oldest L21 (DF13 really) British Beaker man thus far known (2464 - 2209 calBC)...
alanarchae
alanarchae
R1b-L21 184 7,243 05-24-2024, 11:49 AM
    Thread: Did Ancestral Eurasians Derive From At Least Two Migrations Out of Africa?
Post: RE: Did Ancestral Eurasians Derive From At Least T...

Ydna K and P seem to have taken two routes from the Levant area - one through iran into south Siberia and eastwards (and a little offshoot into the Balkans). The other route went along using coasts t...
alanarchae
alanarchae
Ancient (aDNA) 39 1,226 05-23-2024, 07:14 PM
    Thread: Did Ancestral Eurasians Derive From At Least Two Migrations Out of Africa?
Post: RE: Did Ancestral Eurasians Derive From At Least T...

Inquirer Wrote: (05-23-2024, 02:20 PM) -- alanarchae Wrote: (05-23-2024, 01:06 PM) -- not sure but my last look at the human settlement of Eurasia beyond the Levant pointed to an early phase called ...
alanarchae
alanarchae
Ancient (aDNA) 39 1,226 05-23-2024, 06:59 PM
    Thread: Did Ancestral Eurasians Derive From At Least Two Migrations Out of Africa?
Post: RE: Did Ancestral Eurasians Derive From At Least T...

Inquirer Wrote: (05-23-2024, 02:20 PM) -- alanarchae Wrote: (05-23-2024, 01:06 PM) -- not sure but my last look at the human settlement of Eurasia beyond the Levant pointed to an early phase called ...
alanarchae
alanarchae
Ancient (aDNA) 39 1,226 05-23-2024, 06:45 PM
    Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024

alanarchae Wrote: (05-22-2024, 11:00 PM) -- R.Rocca Wrote: (05-22-2024, 02:10 PM) -- ArmandoR1b Wrote: (05-22-2024, 01:52 AM) -- I had put basically the same information into a spreadsheet of my ow...
alanarchae
alanarchae
R1b-L51 431 16,131 05-23-2024, 03:43 PM
    Thread: The Origin of R1b-L21
Post: RE: The Origin of R1b-L21

Webb Wrote: (05-23-2024, 01:21 AM) -- Anything new or noteworthy with Norwegian L21?  I still think it likely that the some of the Norwegian L21 predates the Viking era.  Maybe some Dutch Bell Beaker...
alanarchae
alanarchae
R1b-L21 184 7,243 05-23-2024, 02:37 PM
    Thread: Did Ancestral Eurasians Derive From At Least Two Migrations Out of Africa?
Post: RE: Did Ancestral Eurasians Derive From At Least T...

not sure but my last look at the human settlement of Eurasia beyond the Levant pointed to an early phase called initial palaeolithic derived from the Emiran culture spreading north through Iran and in...
alanarchae
alanarchae
Ancient (aDNA) 39 1,226 05-23-2024, 01:06 PM
    Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024

R.Rocca Wrote: (05-22-2024, 02:10 PM) -- ArmandoR1b Wrote: (05-22-2024, 01:52 AM) -- R.Rocca Wrote: (05-22-2024, 12:20 AM) -- Something interesting: The R1a-M417 branch, which has 39 SNPs, forme...
alanarchae
alanarchae
R1b-L51 431 16,131 05-22-2024, 11:00 PM
    Thread: The Origin of R1b-L21
Post: RE: The Origin of R1b-L21

rmstevens2 Wrote: (05-22-2024, 02:37 PM) -- Oh, btw, for a few days, FTDNA Discover had the MRCA of L21 bumped back down to ~2600 BC, but as of this morning it's back to ~2650 BC.  I keep waiting ...
alanarchae
alanarchae
R1b-L21 184 7,243 05-22-2024, 06:00 PM
    Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024

As an aside how do people feel about the origins of the Armenians? I’m thinking intrusion through the Caucasus c.2400BC or so from a Catacomb or Catacomb influenced group or some obscure yamnaya deriv...
alanarchae
alanarchae
R1b-L51 431 16,131 05-21-2024, 05:33 PM
    Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024

R.Rocca Wrote: (05-21-2024, 12:50 PM) -- alanarchae Wrote: (05-19-2024, 05:16 PM) -- jdean Wrote: (05-19-2024, 01:36 PM) -- Don't know if this helps, it's from Google translate -- That sort of cov...
alanarchae
alanarchae
R1b-L51 431 16,131 05-21-2024, 05:13 PM
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

jdean Wrote: (05-20-2024, 05:25 PM) -- alanarchae Wrote: (05-20-2024, 04:44 PM) -- as with all papers in this kind of field, it’s already out of date but it gives an v good summary of why neither In...
alanarchae
alanarchae
Ancient (aDNA) 345 25,269 05-21-2024, 01:59 PM
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

jdean Wrote: (05-20-2024, 05:33 PM) -- qijia Wrote: (05-20-2024, 05:12 PM) -- I think Proto Indo-Anatolia people had just PIE/PIA words, not speaking PIE. The EHG/CHG people absorbed the words from ...
alanarchae
alanarchae
Ancient (aDNA) 345 25,269 05-21-2024, 01:39 PM
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

pelop Wrote: (05-18-2024, 02:20 PM) -- alanarchae Wrote: (05-18-2024, 09:42 AM) -- My guess is that their mobility and their consequent ability to control routeways and networks was the key advantag...
alanarchae
alanarchae
Ancient (aDNA) 345 25,269 05-20-2024, 05:11 PM
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

as with all papers in this kind of field, it’s already out of date but it gives an v good summary of why neither Indo Anatolian or core IE could have developed in farming areas like Anatolia https:/...
alanarchae
alanarchae
Ancient (aDNA) 345 25,269 05-20-2024, 04:44 PM
    Thread: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024
Post: RE: R1b-L51 in Yamnaya: Lazaridis 2024

jdean Wrote: (05-19-2024, 01:36 PM) -- alanarchae Wrote: (05-19-2024, 01:08 PM) -- R.Rocca Wrote: (05-18-2024, 07:38 PM) -- Unlike the Sredny Stog samples that are all I-699, 39% (n = 9) of the "Do...
alanarchae
alanarchae
R1b-L51 431 16,131 05-19-2024, 05:16 PM