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    Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
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ambron Wrote: (Yesterday, 03:07 PM) -- Ambron does not need to explain this, as palynology explains it well enough. And palynology shows (Latałowa, Izdebski) that there was no settlement void in Pola...
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Ancient (aDNA) 1,760 139,245 6 hours ago
    Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
Post: RE: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Centra...

Orentil Wrote: (06-18-2024, 07:04 PM) -- It seems to be like for the histogenes project, one big (European funded) umbrella project with regional subprojects - one might be indeed the cooperation wit...
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Ancient (aDNA) 1,760 139,245 06-19-2024, 03:32 PM
    Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
Post: RE: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Centra...

Orentil Wrote: (06-18-2024, 07:04 PM) -- It seems to be like for the histogenes project, one big (European funded) umbrella project with regional subprojects - one might be indeed the cooperation wit...
Orentil
Orentil
Ancient (aDNA) 1,760 139,245 06-19-2024, 12:18 PM
    Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
Post: RE: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Centra...

I couldn't find a book of abstracts for IMC Leeds 2024 , not sure if they are going to publish one as I also found none for 2023.
Orentil
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Ancient (aDNA) 1,760 139,245 06-19-2024, 09:52 AM
    Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
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01 July 2024 | 11.15-12.45 | University of Leeds Fourth session of HistoGenes at the IMC 2024 MONDAY 1 JULY 2024: 11.15 - 12.45 | Esther Simpson Building: 1.01 Session 127: Genetic Histories...
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Ancient (aDNA) 1,760 139,245 06-19-2024, 09:15 AM
    Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
Post: RE: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Centra...

It seems to be like for the histogenes project, one big (European funded) umbrella project with regional subprojects - one might be indeed the cooperation with Szczecin. It's not totally clear from th...
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Orentil
Ancient (aDNA) 1,760 139,245 06-18-2024, 07:04 PM
    Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
Post: RE: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Centra...

Looking on all the great progress in investigating bronze age genomics in Poland, Germany needs to keep up. And there are some good news from the MPI (Wolfgang Haak) for late neolithic to early bronze...
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Orentil
Ancient (aDNA) 1,760 139,245 06-18-2024, 06:14 PM
    Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
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Vayu Wrote: (06-18-2024, 11:08 AM) -- https://i.postimg.cc/HWtbByz6/posterdates.png -- BP or BC?
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Ancient (aDNA) 1,760 139,245 06-18-2024, 11:11 AM
    Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
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Is it just me that I can't see any details of the poster? All I can decipher is the headline, therefor no possibility to comment...But something seems to be odd...
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Ancient (aDNA) 1,760 139,245 06-18-2024, 09:36 AM
    Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
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ambron Wrote: (06-18-2024, 06:43 AM) -- Radek posted some PCA. All information about this PCA comes only from Radek. That is why an outstanding bioinformatician whose algorithms are notoriously us...
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Ancient (aDNA) 1,760 139,245 06-18-2024, 08:26 AM
    Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
Post: RE: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Centra...

Coming back to the wrong legend of the PCA. Whoever created it got it wrong by 1000 years for two of them. The real values are in the ISBA abstract: Mierzanowice culture (2300-1600 BC), the rhombs Tr...
Orentil
Orentil
Ancient (aDNA) 1,760 139,245 06-17-2024, 09:05 PM
    Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
Post: RE: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Centra...

And it means that Mierzanowice culture (2300-1600 BC) samples with hg R1a plot together with modern Ukrainians? PS: and PL297 is the O2a sample they talked about in the ISBA abstract
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Ancient (aDNA) 1,760 139,245 06-17-2024, 08:29 PM
    Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
Post: RE: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Centra...

Hhm, I have nevertheless the impression that the 37 samples on the PCA are based on the 46 bronze age individuals and as someone added R1a and I2a it fits to the description (and the O2a is PL297)...S...
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Ancient (aDNA) 1,760 139,245 06-17-2024, 08:11 PM
    Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
Post: RE: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Centra...

I'm getting a bit lost here with the discussion on the PCA plot. Do I get it right that this PCA plot belongs to the following ISBA10 abstract from Golubinski et al 2023? Y-chromosome analysis of B...
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Orentil
Ancient (aDNA) 1,760 139,245 06-17-2024, 07:56 PM
    Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
Post: RE: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Centra...

old europe Wrote: (06-17-2024, 10:13 AM) -- Orentil Wrote: (06-16-2024, 08:23 PM) -- So, you would say that in all three cultures an arriving Scandinavian population could have met around the turn o...
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Ancient (aDNA) 1,760 139,245 06-17-2024, 10:33 AM
    Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
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ambron Wrote: (06-17-2024, 09:09 AM) -- Orentil There is no point in thinking about questions that will probably never be answered. So let me say this... In the near future, at least three stud...
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Ancient (aDNA) 1,760 139,245 06-17-2024, 09:31 AM
    Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
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So, you would say that in all three cultures an arriving Scandinavian population could have met around the turn of times, Oksywie culture, Przeworsk culture and Western Baltic culture there was a medi...
Orentil
Orentil
Ancient (aDNA) 1,760 139,245 06-16-2024, 08:23 PM
    Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
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ambron Wrote: (06-16-2024, 09:32 AM) -- Orentil Post-CWC populations (WSH plus GAC) assimilated on Polish lands Neolithic groups rich in WHG of the Balto-Slavic drift type. This population lived o...
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Ancient (aDNA) 1,760 139,245 06-16-2024, 11:06 AM
    Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
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ambron Wrote: (06-16-2024, 06:25 AM) -- dancingfragments Balto-Slavic admixture was common in the Wielbark population. We also have typically Slavic genomes and paternal lines from this population...
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Ancient (aDNA) 1,760 139,245 06-16-2024, 08:17 AM
    Thread: Ancient I1 samples list and discussion
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Good question. At this time we should check Tacitus for suitable tribal names. I always wondered if the Suiones lived rather on the Danish isles/Skane then farther North
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I1-M253 178 13,943 06-15-2024, 12:34 PM