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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
| So I took the 5th millennium samples with Yhg from Lazaridis et al and (thanks Teepean!) Ghalishi et al and the RAS sample, with the exceptions of Khvalynsk and Ekaterinovka (because I was feeling laz... |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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Archetype0ne Wrote: (Yesterday, 09:16 PM)
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HurrianFam Wrote: (Yesterday, 07:07 PM)
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HurrianFam Wrote: (Yesterday, 03:16 PM)
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A few of the samples from The rise and transformation of Bronze Ag... |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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HurrianFam Wrote: (Yesterday, 03:16 PM)
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A few of the samples from The rise and transformation of Bronze Age pastoralists in the Caucasus posted on ENA (https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB... |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
| A few of the samples from The rise and transformation of Bronze Age pastoralists in the Caucasus posted on ENA (https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB73987)
Eastern Hunter Gatherer
Satanaj Gro... |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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Арсен Wrote: (09-14-2024, 11:50 AM)
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Jafety Wrote: (09-14-2024, 11:26 AM)
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Арсен Wrote: (09-14-2024, 09:38 AM)
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and did the Tarim WSHG not participate in the ethnogenesis of the Tocharians? I... |
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09-14-2024, 06:55 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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Арсен Wrote: (09-13-2024, 08:46 PM)
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HurrianFam Wrote: (09-13-2024, 06:37 PM)
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Арсен Wrote: (09-13-2024, 06:24 PM)
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I think that earlier Tocharian languages were influenced by North Caucasian... |
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09-13-2024, 09:35 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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Арсен Wrote: (09-13-2024, 06:24 PM)
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I think that earlier Tocharian languages were influenced by North Caucasian languages
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Based on what? Several of Tocharian's defining features (like merging... |
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09-13-2024, 06:37 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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Konieczny Wrote: (09-12-2024, 03:33 PM)
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HurrianFam Wrote: (09-12-2024, 03:19 PM)
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Konieczny Wrote: (09-12-2024, 03:02 PM)
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In Proto-Indo-European (PIE), the reconstructed word for "wheel" ... |
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09-12-2024, 03:36 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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Konieczny Wrote: (09-12-2024, 03:02 PM)
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In Proto-Indo-European (PIE), the reconstructed word for "wheel" is *h₂éḱmōn. This root is reconstructed based on linguistic evidence from various Indo-Eu... |
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09-12-2024, 03:19 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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Jafety Wrote: (09-10-2024, 06:31 PM)
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What do you think? Steppe Eneolithic outlier West is in a position relatively similar to Core Yamnaya? Or between that and the Nalchik Intermediate diamonds? I... |
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09-11-2024, 10:12 AM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
| Flipped Lazaridis' PCA and juxtaposed it with Ghalichi's. This is super shoddy, and I'm sorry for spamming the thread with screenshots, but it seemed relevant.
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09-10-2024, 05:25 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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Арсен Wrote: (09-10-2024, 03:47 PM)
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most likely it is an admixture related to wshg, since the satanic sample is on the extreme side of the wedge of the ehg cluster, closest to wshg. very interesti... |
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09-10-2024, 03:56 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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Арсен Wrote: (09-10-2024, 02:10 PM)
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HurrianFam Wrote: (09-10-2024, 01:49 PM)
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Арсен Wrote: (09-10-2024, 01:33 PM)
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Caucasian pole
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How? Geographically it's well north of Areni. Look at w... |
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09-10-2024, 02:48 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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Арсен Wrote: (09-10-2024, 01:33 PM)
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HurrianFam Wrote: (09-10-2024, 01:07 PM)
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Арсен Wrote: (09-10-2024, 12:43 PM)
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if Satanay will have Y from EHG (R1b-V1636?) then it will be a perfect cand... |
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09-10-2024, 01:49 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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Арсен Wrote: (09-10-2024, 12:43 PM)
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if Satanay will have Y from EHG (R1b-V1636?) then it will be a perfect candidate for the south pole in the steppe neolithic, GK, Nalchik, Areni, Kura Araks and ... |
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09-10-2024, 01:07 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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CowboyHG Wrote: (09-10-2024, 10:29 AM)
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Yes Gubs / Satanay gorge hunter gatherer already has CHG. Dates to 6000 or 5500 bc
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Can you elaborate on this? The info on this sample from the Ghalichi p... |
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09-10-2024, 12:11 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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Mithra Wrote: (09-10-2024, 11:37 AM)
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HurrianFam Wrote: (09-10-2024, 11:11 AM)
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There’s some more detail in the talk that Sabine Reinhold gave at the Transformation of Europe conference in Buda... |
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09-10-2024, 11:45 AM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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Mithra Wrote: (09-10-2024, 10:49 AM)
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From where do you got this information? I thought only the abstract was published till now.
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There’s some more detail in the talk that Sabine Reinhold gave... |
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09-10-2024, 11:11 AM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
| A possible ID for BMT1001 in the Eneolithic Steppe group?
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OSTEOLOGICAL MATERIALS FROM CHECHNYA AND INGUSHETIA IN THE COLLECTIONS OF THE MSU RESEARCH INSTITUTE AND MUSEUM OF ANTHROPOLOGY B... |
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09-09-2024, 03:49 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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CowboyHG Wrote: (09-09-2024, 11:51 AM)
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Nalchik NL122 looks fairly straightfoward
Nalchik
Russia_Khvalynsk_Eneolithic
Russia_Caucasus_Eneolithic
best coefficients: 0.264 0.736
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