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Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
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Riverman Wrote: (10-11-2024, 01:18 PM)
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-DSZ 3 and 5 are related. They are from an Early Sarmatian cemetery in North-East Slovakia. Unfortunately they are not carbon dated, but two other samples fr... |
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10-11-2024, 02:06 PM |
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Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
| Yes, I would also be interested to know if those two NE-samples have different haplogroups than the others. Unfortunately there was no subgroup for I20802. Same was true for all the IA samples from Hu... |
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10-10-2024, 03:22 PM |
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Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
| With the confirmation that the haplogroups are correct, we can delve a bit deeper in the Sarmatian V13s.
-DSZ 3 and 5 are related. They are from an Early Sarmatian cemetery in North-East Slovakia. ... |
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10-10-2024, 11:48 AM |
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Thread: A Study of the Sarmatian-Period Population in the Carpathian Basin
Post: RE: A Study of the Sarmatian-Period Population in ...
| One of the authors confirmed to me the groups were correct, the markers were not, here is a corrected version:
Genetic ID Y Hg (Yleaf) Y Hg marker
LMO-8 R1a1a1b2a2a~ R-Z2125*(xSUR1,M12301,YP349)
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Ancient (aDNA)
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10-10-2024, 08:10 AM |
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Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
| I'm not sure PH1246 is so straightforward. It was present in South Thracians for sure, but there are also branches which are deeply rooted in Montenegro/Albania/Serbia. PH1246 is older than even BY388... |
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10-09-2024, 03:10 PM |
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Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
| Looking closer at the Romanian Sarmatians, on the admixture graph there are 20 samples, of which 12 'real Sarmatians' and 8 who look completely different, and much more EEF like than most other sample... |
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10-08-2024, 03:22 PM |
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Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
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Aspar Wrote: (10-08-2024, 09:54 AM)
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The 'turnover' might as well be the result of the vastness of the Carpathian basin and the sampling process.
If you look at the graphs in the pdf file carefull... |
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10-08-2024, 10:49 AM |
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Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
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CowboyHG Wrote: (10-08-2024, 09:14 AM)
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rafc Wrote: (10-08-2024, 07:04 AM)
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Some quick thoughts on the new Sarmatian paper (https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.10.04.616652v1). Clearly ... |
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10-08-2024, 09:40 AM |
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Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
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Aspar Wrote: (10-08-2024, 07:53 AM)
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It seems we have EIA samples from Romania as well.
I can see two so far, both from Lișcoteanca - Movila Olarului (Brăila county), male and female. The male is ... |
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10-08-2024, 08:48 AM |
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Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
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Riverman Wrote: (10-08-2024, 07:20 AM)
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The majority might be locals, just like in the preceding periods, but we have to wsit for the coordinates and whether subclades can be determined.
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As I ... |
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10-08-2024, 07:30 AM |
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Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
| Some quick thoughts on the new Sarmatian paper (https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.10.04.616652v1). Clearly massive turnover in Sarmatian era, as previously discussed. It also seems that whi... |
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10-08-2024, 07:04 AM |
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Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
| I have been thinking a bit further about the subgroups of V13 in aDNA. Our sample is really small, but the two subgroups we found north of the Danube with the Babadag/Kartal profile seem to be really ... |
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10-07-2024, 12:25 PM |
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Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
| As I mentioned before, I think the Blisk guys are East Med/Hellenistic/Greek migrants, unrelated to V13. |
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10-06-2024, 12:43 PM |
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Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
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corrigendum Wrote: (10-02-2024, 11:15 PM)
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I'm not pushing the narrative that Illyrians are the source for E-V13 as a whole. I re-posted the data of the study about the samples from Timacum Minus. ... |
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10-03-2024, 06:48 AM |
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Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
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Riverman Wrote: (10-03-2024, 06:05 AM)
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But we just need the Transylvanian samples...
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Sadly I heard this will not be before early 25 (and could be later). We need a bit more patience. ;-) |
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10-03-2024, 06:43 AM |
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Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
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MilosObradovic Wrote: (10-02-2024, 08:37 PM)
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rafc Wrote: (10-02-2024, 07:58 PM)
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Regardless of the location of Z5018, I feel like the dating of this SNP at FTDNA and Yfull is unrealistically lo... |
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10-02-2024, 08:53 PM |
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Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
| Regardless of the location of Z5018, I feel like the dating of this SNP at FTDNA and Yfull is unrealistically low. It seems unreasonable that this one SNP would cover 700 years. |
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10-02-2024, 07:58 PM |
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Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
| The problem is that much of our aDNA evidence is so late. We have a lot of V13 from Migration era Hungary and beyond, and we know it was not so present in the Sarmatian era. So a lot of that aDNA does... |
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10-02-2024, 06:13 PM |
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Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
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Pribislav Wrote: (10-01-2024, 09:45 PM)
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UKR007 is V13+, Z1057+, Y30977-, CTS1273-, L540-, Y35953+ (https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-Y35953/), BY14506-, PF6784-
So one of these two is false:
CTS1273 ... |
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10-02-2024, 06:19 AM |
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Thread: Population history of Ukraine
Post: RE: Population history of Ukraine
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Tomenable Wrote: (10-01-2024, 03:22 PM)
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Light Wrote: (10-01-2024, 02:58 PM)
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I'm still not sure what 'Scythian Farmer' means but about Scythian Core these individuals are Khovsgol + BMAC + Andr... |
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10-01-2024, 04:22 PM |
