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    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

CowboyHG Wrote: (07-28-2024, 01:39 AM) -- So the studies sampled early CW individuals with high steppe and made false claims about '80% replacement' because of oberver error. The early CW individuals...
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Ancient (aDNA) 2,163 144,346 07-28-2024, 01:15 PM
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

CowboyHG Wrote: (07-27-2024, 10:33 PM) -- I think your right about the wheels/ wagons, but as for the decline of the Balkan world had different causes to what might be read in 'mainstream' IE literat...
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Ancient (aDNA) 2,163 144,346 07-28-2024, 01:20 AM
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

alanarchae Wrote: (07-27-2024, 04:08 PM) -- IMO it’s more likely that the farming world to the west was in a pretty devastated state before the main spread of steppe genes into it c.3000-2800BC took ...
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Ancient (aDNA) 2,163 144,346 07-27-2024, 04:51 PM
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

Jafety Wrote: (07-25-2024, 09:04 PM) -- Also let me list here my frustrations :-) as per Anatolians and the mutually exclusive arguments 1. P-Anatolian and PIA lacks agri vocab, so can't come from...
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Ancient (aDNA) 2,163 144,346 07-27-2024, 01:11 PM
    Thread: South Caucasus & Anatolia migrations
Post: RE: South Caucasus & Anatolia migrations

HurrianFam Wrote: (07-13-2024, 02:51 PM) -- Psynome Wrote: (07-13-2024, 01:49 PM) -- Northeast Caucasian: Solid evidence from uniparental lines and autosomal genes points to the entrance of NEC into...
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Ancient (aDNA) 178 9,837 07-13-2024, 04:27 PM
    Thread: South Caucasus & Anatolia migrations
Post: RE: South Caucasus & Anatolia migrations

Арсен Wrote: (07-13-2024, 03:18 PM) -- now if you, like me, think that the emergence of NEC languages is due to the spread of the Kura Arak culture in the northeastern Caucasus, then what language di...
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Ancient (aDNA) 178 9,837 07-13-2024, 04:23 PM
    Thread: South Caucasus & Anatolia migrations
Post: RE: South Caucasus & Anatolia migrations

Jafety Wrote: (07-13-2024, 08:16 AM) -- I want to start a spin-off thread for the discussions on various movements of CHG / CIHG and Proto-Anatolian spread as I see the Lazaridis et al 2024 discussio...
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Ancient (aDNA) 178 9,837 07-13-2024, 01:49 PM
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

targaryen Wrote: (05-13-2024, 07:03 PM) -- Vinitharya Wrote: (05-13-2024, 12:30 PM) -- Anatolian from the east makes zero sense.  First of all, there are zero proven migrations of Indo-European peop...
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Ancient (aDNA) 2,163 144,346 05-15-2024, 01:20 AM
    Thread: Origin of the Brahui
Post: RE: Origin of the Brahui

szin Wrote: (04-30-2024, 10:25 PM) -- I'm personally led to believe that some ancestors of the Brahui were Dravidians who moved northwest and mixed with the local population, who retained the Brahui ...
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Southern 7 840 05-01-2024, 02:09 AM
    Thread: Uralic populations in the qpAdm models by Zeng et al. 2023
Post: RE: Uralic populations in the qpAdm models by Zeng...

I think the word "tends" is doing most of the work in that statement by the authors. As you pointed out and plenty of others have shown, there are definitely other East Asian ancestry sources in a num...
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Ancient (aDNA) 32 2,674 04-22-2024, 02:10 AM
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

Jaska Wrote: (04-21-2024, 09:10 PM) -- Is it evidence for the western route? Is there Serednii Stih ancestry all the way through the Balkan? Not to my knowledge. In that case, the western route does ...
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Ancient (aDNA) 2,163 144,346 04-22-2024, 02:04 AM
    Thread: Steppe Ancestry in western Eurasia and the spread of the Germanic Languages
Post: RE: Steppe Ancestry in western Eurasia and the spr...

Here's a recent paper that provides some great climate context for the earlier time periods of the genomic study:  https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0277379123004390 (https://www.s...
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Psynome
Ancient (aDNA) 407 44,327 03-28-2024, 03:36 PM
    Thread: Steppe Ancestry in western Eurasia and the spread of the Germanic Languages
Post: RE: Steppe Ancestry in western Eurasia and the spr...

I've been investigating the modelling behind the authors claim that the East Scandinavia 2800bp+ cluster is modelled with only Baltic HG ancestry in the supplements. If you go to Figure 6.3.1.6 in the...
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Ancient (aDNA) 407 44,327 03-22-2024, 01:23 PM
    Thread: Steppe Ancestry in western Eurasia and the spread of the Germanic Languages
Post: RE: Steppe Ancestry in western Eurasia and the spr...

I noticed there has not been extensive discussion yet on the historical context of the theoretical Pre-Proto-Germanic migration into Scandinavia from the Baltic ~2000BCE. What is the archeological ...
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Ancient (aDNA) 407 44,327 03-21-2024, 01:37 AM
    Thread: Steppe Ancestry in western Eurasia and the spread of the Germanic Languages
Post: RE: Steppe Ancestry in western Eurasia and the spr...

Anglesqueville Wrote: (03-15-2024, 07:51 AM) -- Awood Wrote: (03-15-2024, 01:32 AM) -- I didn't look at this closely, but it sounds like they are pushing the I1 + R1a battle ax as the root of proto-...
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Ancient (aDNA) 407 44,327 03-15-2024, 11:53 AM
    Thread: The first maternal genetic study of hunter-gatherers from Vietnam
Post: RE: The first maternal genetic study of hunter-gat...

Low quality paper, unfortunately. The two layer hypothesis has essentially been confirmed...in fact modern mainland SEA populations are more like a 3+ major layer mix. In chronological order: Hoabinhi...
Psynome
Psynome
Ancient (aDNA) 5 569 02-24-2024, 03:52 PM
    Thread: The time and place of origin of South Caucasian languages
Post: RE: The time and place of origin of South Caucasia...

Putting the PIE section aside because at this point it's not worth commenting on, I'll say the authors got the Proto-Kartvelian history partially correct but with some major issues. The Colchis an...
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Linguistics 10 674 12-06-2023, 12:13 AM
    Thread: Locating Pre Proto Uralic
Post: RE: Locating Pre Proto Uralic

Queequeg Wrote: (11-29-2023, 03:24 PM) -- ph2ter Wrote: (11-29-2023, 09:30 AM) -- I don't know much about Proto-Uralic, but judging only from PCA it looks to me that Okunev culture is the source of ...
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Linguistics 43 2,794 11-29-2023, 05:39 PM
    Thread: Genetic continuity and change among the Indigenous peoples of California
Post: RE: Genetic continuity and change among the Indige...

Good to see more support for the recent Uto-Aztecan from the north hypothesis outlined in this paper: https://osf.io/preprints/socarxiv/k598j/ (https://osf.io/preprints/socarxiv/k598j/)
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Ancient (aDNA) 4 522 11-27-2023, 08:11 PM
    Thread: Locating Pre Proto Uralic
Post: RE: Locating Pre Proto Uralic

I have to say I am still in favor of the earlier predecessor of PU being associated with Yakutia_LNBA people. The high proportion of Yakutia_LNBA type ancestry along with the strongly Uralic asso...
Psynome
Psynome
Linguistics 43 2,794 11-26-2023, 10:33 PM