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    Thread: Historically the most ethnically diverse cities/towns
Post: RE: Historically the most ethnically diverse citie...

Odesa in 1939 was also very diverse: Jews - 33.26% Russians - 30.88% Ukrainians - 29.60% Poles - 1.46% (down from 4.31% in 1897) Germans - 1.39% Bulgarians - 0.82% Moldovans - 0.43% Armenians - 0.38%...
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Cultural Anthropology 6 191 9 hours ago
    Thread: DNA results of Poles from Kresy
Post: RE: DNA results of Poles from Kresy

PL_Vinnytsia1 in Eurogenes K36 scores like this: PL_Vinnytsia1,0,0,0.93,0,0,10.26,0,0,7.76,0,22.33,0,13.49,9.25,0,8.14,0,9.78,0,0,0,4.73,2.1,7.17,0,0.25,0,0,0,0,0,0,2,0,1.51,0.31 Sample PL_Vinnytsia...
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Autosomal (auDNA) 9 221 Yesterday, 01:36 PM
    Thread: DNA results of Poles from Kresy
Post: RE: DNA results of Poles from Kresy

Here is one more Pole of Kresy with origins from the region of Podolia (Vinnytsia Oblast), this is what he scores in G25: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinnytsia_Oblast Distance to: PL_Vinnytsia1_sc...
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Autosomal (auDNA) 9 221 06-15-2024, 11:41 PM
    Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

ambron Wrote: (04-19-2024, 07:14 AM) -- Arza said... Distance to: Bulgaria_Durankulak:I1456 0.02533385 Polish_Kashubian 0.02982380 Polish 0.03384838 Sorb_Niederlausitz 0.03555244 Czech 0.0363...
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Ancient (aDNA) 516 37,875 06-15-2024, 07:57 PM
    Thread: DNA results of Poles from Kresy
Post: RE: DNA results of Poles from Kresy

EK6054770 and LZ6789348 are probably Poles of recent immigrant background, while others are native to Estonia for many generations?
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Autosomal (auDNA) 9 221 06-15-2024, 06:45 PM
    Thread: DNA results of Poles from Kresy
Post: RE: DNA results of Poles from Kresy

Closest Single Distances to each of 15 academic Estonian Poles: Distance to: JR7565919 6.24386899 Russia_RUS_Pskov 6.27742782 Europe_LT_Lithuania-Alytus 6.90116657 Russia_RUS_Smolensk 6.90363672 Euro...
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Autosomal (auDNA) 9 221 06-15-2024, 06:30 PM
    Thread: DNA results of Poles from Kresy
Post: RE: DNA results of Poles from Kresy

These are 15 academic samples of ethnic Poles from Estonia: Kit Number: LK5810440 Name: Ethnic Polish in Estonia PL135 Kit Number: HN5578439 Name: Ethnic Polish in Estonia PL150 Kit Number: KZ87068...
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Autosomal (auDNA) 9 221 06-15-2024, 06:00 PM
    Thread: DNA results of Poles from Kresy
Post: DNA results of Poles from Kresy

In this thread I would like to discuss the DNA results and genetic origins of ethnic Poles from Kresy (from Former Eastern Poland): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kresy Below I post two results, one ...
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Autosomal (auDNA) 9 221 06-15-2024, 04:46 PM
    Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
Post: RE: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Centra...

okshtunas Wrote: (06-14-2024, 07:06 PM) -- They're probably much younger too if we consider that within the aforementioned clades in your list have most of their participants even downstream of that ...
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Ancient (aDNA) 1,629 120,428 06-14-2024, 07:58 PM
    Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
Post: RE: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Centra...

https://i.imgur.com/pDy6GNa.png
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Ancient (aDNA) 1,629 120,428 06-14-2024, 06:25 PM
    Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
Post: RE: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Centra...

TMRCA dates for Polish R1a subclades from Peter Gwozdz's website according to YFull: (also 20% higher estimates as some say that YFull is underestimating the age of clades) https://i.imgur.com/qz4lq...
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Ancient (aDNA) 1,629 120,428 06-14-2024, 06:11 PM
    Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
Post: RE: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Centra...

And here is my estimate for R1b in Poland (data back from year 2016 so more recent estimates can be different): [spoiler] https://i.imgur.com/EtHQNiH.png [/spoiler]
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Ancient (aDNA) 1,629 120,428 06-14-2024, 04:45 PM
    Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
Post: RE: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Centra...

Here are two different estimates of percentages of R1a subclades in Poland. But they are old estimattes from around 2018 or even older: 1. My estimate (I calculated it from FTDNA Projects): R1a-M459...
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Ancient (aDNA) 1,629 120,428 06-14-2024, 04:37 PM
    Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
Post: RE: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Centra...

I agree.
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Ancient (aDNA) 1,629 120,428 06-14-2024, 02:46 PM
    Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
Post: RE: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Centra...

Vinitharya Wrote: (06-14-2024, 12:42 PM) -- It's like if DF27 were in Ireland because of the Milesian invasion from Spain instead of being a minority lineage in the mostly L21 Bell Beaker settlement ...
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Ancient (aDNA) 1,629 120,428 06-14-2024, 12:44 PM
    Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
Post: RE: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Centra...

Y2395 is Gyvakarai1 (and it is ancestral to Z284). Kivutkalns153 is YP1370, which is a subclade of Z284.
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Ancient (aDNA) 1,629 120,428 06-14-2024, 12:36 PM
    Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
Post: RE: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Centra...

Here it is listed as YP1370 which is a subclade of Z284: https://genetiker.wordpress.com/y-snp-calls-for-kivutkalns-153/
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Ancient (aDNA) 1,629 120,428 06-14-2024, 12:32 PM
    Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
Post: RE: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Centra...

ph2ter Wrote: (06-14-2024, 12:24 PM) -- Isn't Kivutkalns153 CTS1211? -- I remember reading that it is Z284.  Here it is listed only as R-M417: https://haplotree.info/maps/ancient_dna/slidesho...
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Ancient (aDNA) 1,629 120,428 06-14-2024, 12:29 PM
    Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
Post: RE: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Centra...

And Gyvakarai1 is still without the Balto-Slavic drift it seems: https://amtdb.org/sample/Gyvakarai1 Code: -- Lithuania_LN:Gyvakarai1_10bp_noUDG,0.120652,0.092413,0.053551,0.10336,-0.009848,0.04322...
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Ancient (aDNA) 1,629 120,428 06-14-2024, 12:22 PM
    Thread: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Central Europe...
Post: RE: Stolarek et al: Genetic history of East-Centra...

ph2ter Wrote: (06-14-2024, 12:04 PM) -- Maybe it came from Baltic, but it was not Balto-Slavic. It was Corded Ware culture. -- Kivutkalns153 (with R1a-Z284) is Baltic_BA, not Corded Ware. It is obvi...
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Ancient (aDNA) 1,629 120,428 06-14-2024, 12:07 PM