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I thought a thread about one of the more commonly seen mtDNA would be interesting and helpful. Any comments or thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
According to the H1 mtDNA Full Genomic Sequence (mtGenome) Project at FTDNA:
   Unlike other branches of the mega-haplogroup H, the defining mutation for H1 (3010A) has likely happened many times in the history of H.     This recurrent nature of H1 adds an extra layer of complexity to understanding our direct maternal origins within H1 and its sub-branches.
   H1 encompasses an important fraction of Western European mtDNA, reaching its local peak among contemporary Basques  and appearing       at a high frequency among other Iberians and North Africans. Its frequency is above 10% in many other parts of Europe (France, Sardinia,       British Isles, Alps, large portions of Eastern Europe), and above 5% in nearly all the continent. Its subclade H1b is most common in eastern     Europe and NW Siberia.] So far, the highest frequency of H1 - 61%- has been found among the Tuareg of the Fezzan region in .Libya.

Eupedia has the following about H1:
 Haplogroup H1 is by far the most common subclade in Europe, representing approximately than half of the H lineages in Western Europe.   Roostalu et al. (2006) estimate that H1 arose around 22,500 years ago. H1 is divided in 65 basal subclades. The largest, H1c, has over 20   more basal subclades of its own, most with deeper ramifications. H1 is found throughout Europe, North Africa, the Levant, Anatolia, the   Caucasus, and as far as Central Asia and Siberia. The highest frequencies of H1 are observed in the Iberian peninsula, south-west France and   Sardinia.

Being that my mtDNA is H1c, I have the following TMRCA for H1 and and H1c and some of its branches from YFull.

Mine is H1e2 according to Family Tree and H1e2g according to YFull. Here’s my TMRCA:

Mine is H11a2b. Obviously the TMRCA is not reliable. It has fluctuated from 7000, to 1000, to 300, to now 125 years lol. Mostly all Balkan peoples. The basal H11a2b was supposedly found in a Celto-Germanic sample from 200BCE if I recall correctly when reviewing a mtDNA report a while back. Our clade belongs somewhere below H11a2b.

https://www.yfull.com/mtree/H11a2b/

I don't know how reliable are the TMRCAs for my mtDNA, as I have not researched it any where near as much as my Y-DNA. The terminal branch is dated to about 200 years ago in the USA, so that seems feasible. The next branch seems to have taken place in the U.K. Considering my maternal ancestor, surname Stevenson,  who had this matrilineage came from Scotland - this seems likely. However, the line is also dated from around the same time with matches from around the Baltic, so I am guessing it has something to do with the Vikings, as we know the Vikings brought quite a bit of DNA to places like Scotland. 

Hello cousins, here is mine.

My speculation is that mine is some old Celt/Gaul or other wave moving out or in like Goth, Frank or some other Celto-Germanic group. Given the number of Danish matches on yFull and Swedish matches on FTDNA, maybe this makes sense.

I took a look at the ancient samples bearing my clade, and ended up with a scant crop. No idea what to make of that in terms of migration path or origin. Samples are not only few and far between, but also scattered from one end of Eurasia to the other.



Heatmap, Modern :

Using the heat maps, H1c and H1c9 and their locations.

Looks like a few H1c3b in there.

My H1ao1a mtDNA lineage is from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, Atlantic-Iberian-European, a Brazilian lineage from the Portuguese Seaborne Empire found in Ribeirinha, Terceira Island, Azores, Portugal (Freguesia da Ribeirinha, Ilha Terceira, Açores, Portugal) with the mutation 16262T and was among the first ones embarked to the Azores in caravels or carracks.

There are two H1ao in Ancient DNA:
KX977320 - Iron Age Black Sea Scythians - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5339713/
VK186 -  Viking, Greenland - Early_Norse -  https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2688-8

My subclade, based on the old James Lick calculator, is apparently H1a3a1. DNA Kit Studio gives me anything from H65a to H30b to H79a, but then again that suggests I use Lick to check the accuracy so I'm not sure whether they know what they're actually doing.

According to http://scaledinnovation.com/gg/snpTracker.html, the TMRCA of H1a3a1 likely lived around 260AD in the east of England. My oldest documented direct maternal ancestor was apparently born in Nottinghamshire.

Mine is H1c3 according to FTDNA and H1c3d according to YFull. I can trace my matrilineal line back to my 7x great grandmother, who was from the Kendal area of Westmorland (now Cumbria), England in the 1700s.

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Mine is H1v, all my ancestry is from Croatia. It is still not found in any ancientDNA samples and It is common in North Africa. It's really hard to find any info about it.

My dad's is H1j (specifically H1j10a), which he inherited along the all-maternal line of the wife of a Mayflower passenger (she arrived later in 1623 on the Anne with her daughters). 

Obviously he's the last one in our family to have it, so it's cool that we caught it when we could. 

Ray Wing has a theory it may have arrived in England as part of a group from Spain in the Medieval period, perhaps as a retainer to a royal betrothed.
He has an H1j Elizabeth Walker project at FTDNA trying to gather information on the descendants that might shed some light on this.

https://mayflowerdna.org/wiki/index.php/...er_(mtDNA)

Quote:The FTDNA Mayflower Project and the Elizabeth WALKER Warren mtDNA Lineage Project documents six matrilineal (all female line) descendants of Elizabeth (Walker) Warren. All six have been assigned to the H1j haplogroup, but the YFull mtDNA tree has futher refined the clade to H1j10a.[2]

As of 30 June 2022, FTDNA documents a total of 29 individuals who have taken a Full mtDNA test and are exact mtDNA matches to most[3] of the known matrilineal descendants of Elizabeth WALKER Warren. As such, the H1j10a haplogroup is not limited to matrilineal descendants of Elizabeth WALKER Warren, but it is believed they all likely descend from a matrilineal ancestor of Elizabeth. Thus the H1j10a Haplogroup in and of itself cannot be used to conclusively identify a matrilineal line from Elizabeth, but all of Elizabeth's matrilineal descendants must fall under this haplogroup (with the possibility of additional mutations).

H1q2a here.

(05-27-2024, 11:08 AM)Mokordo Wrote: [ -> ]H1q2a here.

Guessing your direct maternal ancestor came from Scandinavia to Spain quite a bit ago.